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    Post  gazzette Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:44 am

    Motorcyclists at the head of a group of riders will face stiffer penalties for speeding under a crown court ruling.

    Being the lead rider in a group is an aggravating factor making you partly responsible for speeding offences of those behind you according to the decision.

    The ruling can be applied in any future cases where two or more motorcyclists riding together are accused of speeding. The head rider might be only a few mph over the limit but could be given the same penalty as the worst offender behind.

    Road traffic solicitor Robert Dobson said: “Any crown court decision can be stated in future cases. This is potentially a very dangerous judgement for motorcyclists.

    "Riders in a group change position frequently.

    “If you are riding at the front any group at excess speed, then the very fact you’re at the front is an aggravating factor.”

    Ken Clark, 49, reached 85mph on his Yamaha R1 while leading a group of three riders on the 60mph A272 near Rogate, Sussex, last June.

    The speed is within the usual threshold for a fixed penalty of three points and a £60 fine.

    But Chichester Crown Court ruled he should receive the same penalty as a following rider accused of going 103mph.

    Barrister notes on the ruling given to Clark after the hearing state: ‘Although his was the lesser speed, [the bench] found it an aggravating feature that he was the lead motorcyclist, was setting the pace and he knew that the other two motorcyclists would want to catch him up and would be speeding to do so.’

    The court rejected Clark’s appeal against six points, a £100 fine and £250 court costs.

    Clark said: “This should have been three points and a £60 fine but so far it’s cost me £2,500 including solicitors’ bills and I have six points on a licence which has been clean for the last 24 years.”

    Clark’s solicitor, Philip Somarakis, said 103mph was the speed reached by a police officer on an unmarked bike while tailing Clark's two friends, but the prosecution accepted it was not possible to prove from video evidence that Clark himself had exceeded 85mph.

    “The gist of the ruling is that to be a lead motorcyclist makes you somehow responsible for the actions of those behind you,” he added.

    Gary Baldwin, former police motorcyclist and co-director of advanced riding school Rapid Training, said: “It's a dangerous precedent to suggest you are now responsible for someone who's in control of another vehicle.

    "How do I control what they do? If someone is following me and I get in an overtake that they don't, they may go faster to catch up but that is their choice.”

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    Post  zx10bazza Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:48 am

    I am not sticking up for the law the law in most cases is good.. just the prats sat in their chambers dishing out ideas etc.. they objected to the biker standing up against them.. that hurt them.. now they look daft.. West Sussex Police have a policy unless it has changed to deal with the speeding ferternity with fore thought.. i know of a few that have opted for a driving test like edge 44 to prevent them from getting fined and points.. still cost the bikers £150 or some thing but at least they learn't some thing...

    Last time i ended up in court doing 104.1mph i hired a barrister.. the magistrates crapped them selves when she walkedinto court.. worth every penny of the £450 fine six points and £25 court costs and the barristers fee of £400 no ban..... yyyyyeeeessss..


    only speed when it is safe to do so, only do it when you are not going to get caught, only do it on roads that you know, only do it for yourself and not to keep up with some one else.
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    Post  wackjonny Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:54 am

    I never speed on my bike,always stick to 70 mph.

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    Post  gazzette Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:58 am

    wackjohny I am sure you stick to the speed limit on a R1,Why would anyone buy a 1000cc to stay at 70 mph all day long.
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    Post  firestormmike2342 Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:32 am

    A motorcyclist has made national news by posting footage himself speeding at 176mph in the wet on the internet.

    The rider is one of two shown on an accident blackspot on the A628 in South Yorkshire known as Woodhead Pass.

    He first follows behind the second rider at speeds of up to 130mph through traffic, then races past to reach over 170mph.


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